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wkd.;fha§ lsisÿ Èkl tla mjq,lg n,h ysñ lr .ekSug bvla fkd,efnk f,i jHjia:dj ixfYdaOkh lrk nj ckdêm;s ffu;%Smd, isrfiak uy;d mjihs'

ckdêm;sjrhd fï nj i|yka lr we;af;a c;Hka;r ghsïia mqj;am; iu. iïuqL idlÉPdjlg iyNd.S fjñkah'

tfiau Y%S ,xldj lsisÿ rgla iu. miñ;=re fkdjk nj;a" ish¨u rgj,g ñ;‍%;ajfha iqr; È.= lrk nj;a tu iïuqL idlÉPdfõ§ ckdêm;s ffu;%Smd, isßfiak uy; i|yka lr ;sfí'

tu iïuqL idlÉPdfõ iïmQ¾K isxy, mßj¾;kh my; ‍mßÈ fjhs'

Y‍%S ,xldfõ ckdêm;s;=udf.a fudag¾ r: fm< ud¾.fha r;= ix{djla ÿgq úg oeka isÿ jkafka óg udi lSmhlg fmr lsisfia;a oelsh fkdyels jQ oiqkls' r: fm< kj;d ;nd fld< ix{dj ,efnk ;=re n,d isà' w¨;a w;aoelSu tmuKla o fkdfõ' fmr jQ jdyk 16 la fyda Bg jeä ixLHdj fjkqjg oeka ckdêm;s ßh fm<g we;af;a jdyk fol ;=kla iy fudag¾ nhsisl,a folla muKs' tod ud¾. ix{d fkd;ld .uka l< tjlg ckdêm;s uyskao rdcmla‍I uy;df.a ßh fm<g n,dfmdfrd;a;= rys; f,i r;= t<sh jegqfKa ckjdß ui 8 jkodh'

tÈk wjqreÿ 9 la tl È.g fuu Èjhska rdcHh md,kh l< 69 yeúßÈ rdcmla‍Ig mrdchla ysñjk nj ue;sjrK od WoEik isgu olakg ,enqKs'

2009 § Tyq oYl ;=kla isú,a hqoaOfha fh§ isá fou< iq¿;rhg wh;a fnÿïjd§kaj hqo ìfï§ mrdch l< w;r tlai;a cd;Skaf.a iuyr jd¾;d i|yka lrk mßÈ tys§ ñh .sh fou< jeishkaf.a ixLHdj 40"000 o úh yel' jirlg miqj rdcmla‍I isxy, fn!oaO jeä ck;djf.a iydh we;sj fojk jrg o f;aÍ m;aúh' hqoaOfha

wjika ld, iSudfõ isÿù hhs lshk udkj ysñlï lv lsÍï .ek fidhd ne,Sug l< b,a,Su .ek lsisfia;a fkd;el+ rdcmla‍I" md,kh f.k .sfha ish mjqf,a idudðlhskag md,k ;ka;‍%fha wKil me;srùug bvlv i,iñks'

ckdêm;sf.a ifydaorfhla cd;sl wdrla‍Idj ndrj isá w;r" ;jfll= wd¾:sl ixj¾Okh ndrj isáfhah' f;jk ifydaorhd md¾,sfïka;=fõ l:dkdhl úh' rdcmla‍I" md,khg úreoaO u; OdÍkaj ksyඬ lf<a wfhdauh yia;hlsks' rch úfõpkh l< udOHdfõ§ka iy foaYmd,k C%shdldÍkaj w;awvx.=jg .ekSu iy ysßyer lsÍï muKla fkdj fkdïur ;yvq rys; iqÿ jEka j,ska meyer .ekSï o isÿ úh' iuyre w;=reoyka jQy' ^flfia jqjo rdcmla‍I rch fï ish¨ fpdaokd m‍%;slafIam lf<ah&

tfy;a n,dfmdfrd;a;= rys; f,i fuu Wvq /jq,la iys; Yla;su;a kdhlhdg n,h wysñ úh' Pkao odhlhd Y‍%S ,xldj tla mjq,lg n,h ysñ taldêldÍ md,khla fj;g f.k hñka isá tu kdhlhdj mrdch lrñka kj ckdêm;s f,i l,ska fndfyda fokd fkdoek isá" rdcmla‍I rcfhau ysgmq weu;sjrfhl= jQ 63 yeúßÈ ffu;‍%Smd, isßfiak uy;dj f;dard .;af;ah'

Pkao m‍%;sM,h .ek isßfiak o mqÿuhg m;aúh' zzPkaofhka ch .;a kuq;a Èk lSmhla hk;=re ug;a oekqfka keye ud ckdêm;s njZZ ckdêm;s isßfiak cd;Hka;r bx.‍%Sis i.drdjlg ÿka ish m‍%:u iïuqL idlÉPdfõ§ zghsïZ i.rdjg mejiqfõ iskd uqiq uqyqKsks' zzta jdf.au rdcmla‍I mjq, o is;kakg we;s fudllao fï jqfKa lshd'ZZ

rdcmla‍If.a w;s úYd, ßh fmryer muKla fkdj ;j;a lghq;= .ek oeka fy<sorõ ù we;' ckdêm;s ld¾hd, mßY‍%fha 5000 lg wiqka.; yels iqfLdamfNda.S fNdackd.drhla bÈ lr ;snqfKa j¾K fjkia l< yels iqúYd, isú,ska myka wd§ kùk wxf.damdx. o iys;jhs'

oeka tu ixlS¾Kh w.ue;s rks,a úl%uisxyf.a ld¾hd, njg m;aj we;' ckm;s isßfiak ;ju;a mÈxÑ ù isákafka rdcmla‍I rcfha fi!LH weu;s f,i kej;S isá ksjfiauh'

isßfiakf.a iydhl ks,OdÍka mjik mßÈ Tyqf.a ms,sfj; fmkqug muKla iSudjQjla fkdfõ' ckdêm;s úOdhl n,;, wvq lsÍug muKla fkdj ckdêm;s Oqr ld,h wvq lsÍug fukau w.ue;sjrhdf.a kdhl;ajfhka hq;= md¾,sfïka;=jg úOdhl n,;, mejÍug o jHjia:d ixfYdaOk f.k taug Tyq iydhfohs' rdcmla‍I md,kh hgf;a n,h tla mjq,lg iSud jQ nj isßfiak ghsï i.rdjg mejiSh'

zztf,i wkd.;fha§ ljodj;a tla mjq,lg n,h ysñ lr .ekSug bvla fkd,efnk f,i wms jHjia:dj ixfYdaOkh lrkjd'ZZ

Y‍%S ,xldj ÈhqKqjk f,dalfha merKsu m‍%cd;ka;‍%jd§ rgls' 1948 § ì‍%;dkH md,kfhka ksoyi ,enQ miq È.gu iïm‍%odhsl f,i uy ue;sjrK meje;ajqKs' §¾> ld,Sk .egqulg miq oeka rgg w;S;fha ;snQ ksoyi h<s we;s lsÍug;a ir, md,k ;ka;‍%hl=;a wjYHh' tfy;a isßfiak wkfmalaIs; f,i n,hg m;aùfï fodaxldrh ráka msg;g o oekqKs' leu;s jqjo fkdjQjo fuu Èjhska rdcHh n,j;=kaf.a NQf.da,Sh foaYmd,k fi,a,fï fldgialrefjls'

fld<U k.rfha fjr<dikak f;acdkaú; hg;aúð; md,kfha f.dvke.s,a,l m<uq uyf<a iqúYd, ld¾hd,fha isg ckdêm;s isßfiak ish md,k lghq;= f.khhs' fuu f.dvke.s,a, bÈßmi we;af;a úYd, .,a iy je,s w;=rd uqyqo f.dv lrñka bÈ flfrk fvd,¾ ì,shk 1'4 l fld<U jrdh k.r jHdmD;s m‍%foaYhhs' iqúYd, fydag,a" ksjdi" fjf<| ixlS¾K wdÈh f.dv ke.Sfï fuu fhdaO fhdackd l%uh oeka ;djld,slj kj;d we;af;a thg wkque;sh ÿka úúO n,m;‍% h<s mÍla‍Id lr ne,Su i|yd h'

Ökfha iqúYd, Kh wdOdr u; rdcmla‍I md,k ;ka;‍%fha§ werUqKq fhdckd C%u .Kkdj w;=frka m‍%uqL;ajh .kafka miq.sh iema;eïn¾ ui Ök ckdêm;s IS ðkamska úiska uq,a.,a ;nk ,o fuu fld<U jrdh k.r fhdackd C%uhhs'

ckdêm;s IS f.a ixpdrh Y‍%S ,xldjg l%fudamdh jeo.;a lulska hqla;h' ck.ykh ñ,shk 20 lg iSud jQ l=vd rgla jqjo Y‍%S ,xldj NQf.da,Sh jYfhka msysgd we;af;a bkaÈhdjg ol=fKka jQ bkaÈhdj" Ökh iy tlai;a ckmoh ish n,mEï ;rlr .ekSug oeä Wkkaÿjla olajk bkaÈhdkq id.r l,dmfhah'

kj ysñlï lvùï fpdaokd u; ngysr cd;Skaf.ka ÿria jQ rdcmla‍I rch lsÜgq jQfha Ökh foig h' Ökfhka fvd,¾ ì,shk .Kkska Kh wdOdr ,nd .ekSug wur;j miq.sh jif¾ fojrlau Ök hqo iíueÍka hdkdj,g fld<U jrdhg we;=¿ùug bv§u bkaÈhdfõ lKiai,a,g fya;= úh' Y‍%S ,xldfõ ysgmq wfußldkq ;dkdm;sjßh jQ oeka fjdIskagkays írElsxia wdh;kfha fcHIaG ;k;=rla orK fgrisgd fIa*¾ uy;añh mejiqfõ rdcmla‍I Ökh iu. ish in|;d .ek by<ska l;d lrk njh' weh tu ms<sfj; ye¢kajQfha isÿù hehs lshk hqo wmrdO .ek n,mEï lrk ngysrg fldld fmkaùula f,igh'

2009 yuqod ch.‍%yKhg miq Y‍%S ,xldfõ úfoaY m‍%;sm;a;sh ksis Èidjlska f;dr ù hhs isßfiak ish ue;sjrK m‍%ldYkfha i|yka l< neúka kj rcfha n, flaka‍o%h fjkia jk njla fmkqKs' tfy;a th Ökfhka bj;g nrùula f,i úia;r l< fkdyels hehs w.ue;s úl%uisxy uy;d ghsï i.rdjg mejiSh'

zzfmr rch Ökh yer ish¨u wfkla rgj,ska wE;g keUqre úh' wm ngysr muKla fkdj bkaÈhdj o miñ;=re lr .ekSug l%shd l<d' th È.gu l< yels l%shdjla fkdfõ' Y‍%S ,xldjg Ökh muKla fkdj ngysr;a wjYHhs' tfukau bkaÈhdj;a wjYHhs'ZZ

tf,igu isßfiak ckjdß ui ch.‍%yKhg miq m‍%:u pdßldj i|yd bkaÈhdj f;dard .ekSfuka wk;=rej bkaÈhdkq we.ue;s kf¾ka‍o% fudaÈ uy;d o Y‍%S ,xldfõ pdßldjl ksr; úh' tfukau Ökfha pdßld lrñka îðxys fYa%IaG uyck Yd,dfõ§ iqúfYaI ms<s.ekqula ,enqfõh' tfy;a fld<U iy îðx w;r in|;dj, Yla;sh meyeÈ,s jkafka oekg w;aysgqjd we;s fld<U jrdh k.r fhdackd l%ufha wkd.;h .ek .kakd ;Skaÿj u;h'

isßfiak mejiqfõ ish rch ish¨u úfoaYsl wruqo,a ,enQ fhdackd l%u fukau foaYSh fhdackd l%u .ek o h<s mÍla‍Id lsÍug ;SrKh l< njhs' tajdfha úúO wl%ñl;d iy w,a,ia ÿIK ms<sn| fpdaokd ;sfnk neúka tfia mÍla‍Id lrkq ,efí'

zzwms lsisjl=g miñ;=re jkafka keye' wms ish¨u rgj,g ñ;‍%;ajfha iqr; È.= lrkafkuqZZ ckdêm;s isßfiak mejiSh'

isßfiakf.a foaYmd,k pß;fha fmr<sldÍ pß; ,la‍IKhla fmfkkakg ke;' rdcmla‍I fukau isßfiak o isxy, fn!oaO nyq cd;shg wh;a jk w;r" mdi,a úfha mgka Y‍%S ,xld ksoyia mla‍Ifha ;reK fmruqfKa idudðl;ajh ,nd foaYmd,k Èúh werUQ pß;hls'

1970 oYlh uq,§ jdudxYsl rdcH úfrdaë wid¾:l úma,jhg iïnkaO hehs fpdaokd ,nd udi 15 la isr wviaisfha o isáfhah' rcfha md,k ;ka;‍%fha .‍%dóh uÜgfï ;ud oerE ;k;=frka b,a,d wiaù mQ¾K ld,Sk foaYmdk{fhl= jQ isßfiak 1989 § md¾,sfïka;=jg uq,a jrg f;aÍ m;aúh'

bkamiq mla‍Ifha ks,;, lSmhla oerE Tyq miqj wud;HxY lSmhl o ;k;=re oeÍh' fmdf<dkakrej Èia;‍%slalfha lDIsld¾ñl mßirhl Èú f.jQ isßfiakf.a foaYmd,k Èúfha m¿ÿ olakg fkd,enqKq w;r" msßisÿ pß;hla f,i ,nd.;a m‍%;srEmh Tyqg rdcmla‍I md,k ;ka;‍%fhka fkdjeïn¾ udifha§ bj;a jQ wjia:dfõ§ fnfyúka m‍%fhdackj;a úh'

cd;Hka;r w¾nqo úu¾Yk lKavdhfï fcHIaG ;k;=rla fydnjk we,ka lSkka mejiqfõ iqfLdamfNda.S myiqlïj,g ,eÈ iqúYd, ¥IK fpdaokd t,a,jQ rdcmla‍I mjqf,a

mdrïmßl md,k m‍%;srEmh bÈßfha isßfiakf.a m‍%;srEmh yd;amiskau fjkia jQjla njh'

uyck in|;d w;ska isßfiak cd;Hka;r ;,fha igkska o myiq chla ,eîh' fou< úuqla;s fldá ixúOdkh iu. mej;s hqoaOfha wjika iufha isÿù hhs lshk udkj ysñlï fpdaokd .ek iajdëk mÍla‍IKhla lsÍug tlai;a cd;Skag bv Èh hq;= hehs cd;Hka;rfhka t,a, jQ n,mEïj,g rdcmla‍I wjk; fkdùh' ^lDDr;ajh .ek fldá ixúOdkh o kïord isá w;r" urdf.k uefrk fndaïnlrejka mdúÉÑh wdrïN lf<ao tu ixúOdkh úisks'&

isßfiak ish ue;sjrK jHdmdrfha fmdfrdkaÿ jQfha foaYSh hdka;‍%Khla msysgjk njgh' tu hdka;‍%Kh cQks ui wjidkh jkúg msysgjk nj ckdêm;sjrhd ghsï i.rdjg mejiSh' isßfiakg ta i|yd ld,h ,nd §ug tlai;a cd;Ska o udkj ysñlï jd¾;dj fï jif¾ iema;eïn¾ udih olajd l,a oeóug ;SrKh lr we;' tfukau kj rch fou< nyq;rh iys; W;=re m‍%dka;fha yuqod wdKqvqldrjrhd fjkqjg isú,a wdKavqldrjrfhla m;alr we;' tfukau ol=Kq wm‍%sldfõ fuka i;Hh iy ixys¢hdj Wfoid fldñiula m;a lsÍug o mshjr .ekSug kshñ;h'

tfy;a m<uqj isßfiakf.a foaYmd,k wdOdrlrejka uy ue;sjrKhlska ch .; hq;=j we;' ;ud uehs ui md¾,sfïka;=j úisrejd yer cQks w.§ fyda cQ,s ui uq,§ uy ue;sjrKhla mj;ajk nj isßfiak ghsï i.rdjg mejiSh' tys§ md¾,sfïka;= wiqklg ;r. lr rdcmla‍I o h<s foaYmd, Ñ;‍%hg we;=¿ùug bv ;sfí' úl,am m‍%;sm;a;s flaka‍o%fha úOdhl wOHla‍I mdlHfida;s irjkuq;a;= uy;d mejiqfõ rdcmla‍I isßfiak rcfha ysig Wäka t,a,d we;s lvqjla jeks njh'

Èjhsfka ol=fKa msysá ;x.,af,a ksjfia§ rdcmla‍I ghsï i.rdjg mejiqfõ kj rchg ;udj foaYmd,kfhka bj;a l< fkdyels njh' zzWjukdjg jvd úYajdih ;nd .ekSug fyd| fohla fkdfõ'ZZ rdcmla‍I mejiSh' wh:d md,kh" mjq,ajdoh wd§ fpdaokd fukau ckjdß ui ue;sjrKhg miq nf,ka md,kfha isàug l=uka;‍%Kh lf<ah hk fpdaokdj o Tyq m‍%;sla‍fIm lf<ah'

kj rch W;aidy lrkafka ;ukag uv .eiSug hehs rdcmla‍I ghsï i.rdjg lsfõh' oekg isßfiak fyd¢ka ia:dms; ù isà' Tyq oeka ish Èk ishfha m‍%:u wÈhr wjika lsÍug wdikakj isà' úfõplhska fj; ixhufhka hq;= wdl,amhla isßfiak orK nj fld<U udOHfõ§yq iy foaYmd,k l%shdldÍyq mji;s' zzuu oeka biair jdf.a nh keyeZZ miq.sh jif¾§ fou< foaYmd,k l%shdldßlfhl=f.a w;=reoykaùu ms<sn| úfrdaOh m, lsÍu ksid isr Ndrfha isá udkj ysñlï l%shdldßlfhl= jk relS m‍%kdkaÿ mejiSh' zzrdcH udOHfha l,ska foaYfødaySka f,i ye¢kajQjka oeka rEmjdyskS idlÉPdj,g iyNd.s fjkjdZZ Tyq lSh'

ckdêm;s isßfiak mejiqfõ Y‍%S ,xldfõ m‍%cd;ka;‍%jd§ moku h<s iúu;a lsÍug wjYH njh' zzud n,hg m;ajQfha n,h iúu;a lsÍu i|yd fkdfõ' uf.a wf;a ;sfnk n,h wfkla wxYj,g mejÍughs'ZZ ckdêm;sjrhd mejiSh' zzn,h flaka‍o%.; ùu rgg úYd, m‍%Yakhla jQjd' we;af;kau n,h fnod yeßh hq;=hs'ZZ iïmQ¾K taldêldÍ md,k ;ka;‍%hla foig ;,a¨fjñka mej;s rglg fuh mQ¾K wfmala‍Idj ms<sn| ixfoaYhls'

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