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fn,a,ka;r isß ioyï wdY‍%ufha msá¥fõ isßOïu fyj;a isß iuka;No% ysñ úáka úg wdkafoda,khg ;=vq fok pß;hls' ta ysñhkaf.a Wmka Èkh fjkqfjka meje;s mskalul § uia udxY iys; wdydr mQcd lsÍu .ek miq.sh od jeä l;d nyla we;s úh' fï ta iïnkaOfhka isßOïu ysñhka iu. l< idlÉPdjls'

m‍%Yakh- Tn jykafiaj ye¢kaúh hq;af;a flfiao@

ms<s;=r- ´k úÈhlg yeÈkajqjg jrola keye' wms idudkH úÈhg isß iuka; No% iajdóka jykafia lshd y÷kajuq'

m‍%Yakh - uE;l § Tnjykafia l;d nyg ,la jqfKa Wmka Èkh fjkqfjka meje;ajQ odkhla ksihs' Wmka Èkh lshkafka jirlska jhig

hEu' tjeks foalg fu;rï uqo,la jeh lr i;=gq jk tl fkd.e<fmk nj iuyre lshkjd@

ms<s;=r- .e<mSu yd fkd.e<mSu f;areï lrkak ´k O¾uhg yd ixialD;shg idfmalaIj" neßo .sysfhl=f.a fõjd NslaIqjlf.a fõjd fyd| msxlula lrkak' ñksiaiq yeuodu lf<a Wmka Èkhl § mdá od,d wjika lrkjd' neßo wfma WmkaÈkhl § odkhla fokak' wysxil ÿmam;a <uhskag Wojq lrkak' frda.Skag Wmia:dk lrkak' ioyï wdY‍%uh udihla ;siafia l%shd;aul flf<a ta jev ms<sfj<' yenehs iuyr udOH jerÈ fohla m‍%pdrh flf<a' frda.Ska 1500lg .s,dfkdamia:dkh l<d' ,xldfõ úúO m<d;aj, mjq,a 350la f.k;a nvq u¨ 350la ÿkakd' fï jf.a jev f.dvla l<d' fï mskalïj, wjikhg ;uhs úYd, odkhla ÿkafka'

m‍%Yakh- odkhg uia udxY ;snqKd' ta .ek úfõpkh lrk msßia lshkjd ;‍%sfldaál mdßYqoaO uxY wkqNjh fyd| nj' kuq;a fu;rï úYd, msßilg uia msiSug tljr .; yels ;ekla keye' ta ksid fï fjkqfjkau we;eï i;=ka urkakg we;s njg fpdaokd lrkjd@

ms<s;=r - iïmQ¾K jerÈ' Tn .syska iqmsß fjf<|i,aj, n,kak uia ud¿ ´k ;rï .kak keoao lsh,d' wms ys;uq idudkHfhka 1500la ú;r lEu lEjd lsh,d' lEu cd;s ishhlg jvd ;snqKd' ,xldfõ w;s ÿ¾,N lEu j¾. ;snqKd' fldajlald fld<" ´¿ yd,a Wh,d" iqj|e,a yd,a" l¿ ySká yd,a" l¿ n;a" f;nq fld<" l;=reuqrex.d fld<" flláh" ¨Kqú," flfi,a fudh" ;síngq" ;e,afld<" ;=U fld<" wifudao.xfld< jf.a úfYaI lEu j¾. úYd, j¾.hla ;snqKd' odkhl § fokak ´k fydhd .kak neß foaj,a' t;fldghs tys jákdlula ;sfhkafka' i;a;= ur,d lEfjd;a th nqoaO Y‍%djlhl=g .e<fmkafka kE' wlemhs' ta odkh fufya odk f.ak ñksiaiq udia ud¿ lsh,d tfyu tlla kE' idudkH ñksiaiq lk lEu f.akjd' mqklal= ;Kfld, f.akafka kE' Th fudav udOHfõ§ka tk nj okakjd kï wms taj;a yokjd' wms ,nk wjqreoafoa taj;a yokjd tk fudav udOHfõ§kag fokak'

m‍%Yakh - yduqÿrejfka udOHfõ§kag tfyu fpdaokd lrk tl jerÈhs'

ms<s;=r - Tn;=udg fkfjhs lsõfõ' iuyr fudav udOHfõ§ka i|yd' ñksiqka ys;ka bkafka nqoaOd.fï bkafka fjðfÜßhka lsh,d' fjðfÜßhka lshkafka ffck wd.fï' i;a;= urK tlhs nqoaOd.fï ;ykï' ux lsõfjd;a if;la ur,d odfka f.akak lsh,d tal jerÈhs' wksl 1500lg lEu yooaÈ uia lsf,da lSho Whkak ´k' yq. fokl=g lshkak mqq¿jka uia lsf,da iShla lsh,d' keye' uia lsf,da ;=kla bõjd kï we;s' wfma ñksiaiq jeämqr lkafka t<j¿' fïjd okafka ke;sj l;d lrk tl krlhs' tfyu ;snqKg ms<s.kak tmd' weú,a,d n,kak'

m‍%Yakh- odhl odhsldjka msßkuk ´kEu fohla wkqNj lrkakg iajdókajykafia,dg mq¿jka jqj;a b,a,,d .ekSfï l%uhla keye fkao@

ms<s;=r- fïjf.a f,dl= odkhla fokfldg wms fldgia fnokjdfka' m<;=re fï lÜáh t<j¿ fï lÜáh' uia ud¿ fï lÜáh n;a fïf.d,af,d w;=remi fjk lKavdhula fu;k jevms<sfj< yß ixúOdkd;aulhs' uu lshk tl ú;rhs lrkafka' ux l=iaishg .syska Whkak hkafka kE' fu;k úYd, odhl msßila bkakjd' ta wh we;a; ke;a; okakjd' m;a;f¾ fldÉpr oeïu;a fufyg ,efnk isõmfia wvq jqfKa kE'

m‍%Yakh- ,xldfõ oekg l%shd;aul jkafka l¾u jdLH lsh,d Wmiïmod fjk l%uh muKhs' Tn jykafia th m‍%;slafIam lrkjd fkao@

ms<s;=r- kE kE ud m‍%;slafIam lrkafka kE' Wmiïmod j¾. lSmhla ;sfhkjd' tlla ;uhs [;a;s p;=;a; Wmiïmodj' ta lshkafka l¾u jdLH lsh,d Wmiïmod lrkjd' yenehs ug m‍%Yakhla ;sfhkjd' l¾u jdLH lsh,d Wmiïmod l<du ta Wmiïmodj msysgkjo@ ta lshkafka ksjka olskak mq¿jkao' l¾u jdLH lshd NslaIqjla Wmiïmod l<yu t;ek b|ka ksjka u. jvkak ´kE' ksjka u. lshkafka ke;=j mkai,g fj,d ysáfhd;a fjkafka tl tl m;a;r lshj,d fudav woyia lshk tl'

m‍%Yakh- Tng tys úfõpkhla ;sfnkjd kï wkq.ukh l< hq;= ms<sfj; .ek fhdackdjl=;a ;sìh hq;=hs' @

ms<s;=r- Wmiïmod j¾. f.dvla ;sfhkjd' Wmiïmodj lshkafka ys; yod .kak tl' NslaIqjla Wmiïmod fj,d le,hlg .shd lshd ta NslaIqj Wmiïmod fjkafka kE' l=i,iai Wmiïmodj lr .;af;d;a iir ÿl ksjkak mq¿jka'

m‍%Yakh- kuq;a Tn jykafiaf.a YsIH NslaIQka jykafia,d msßila miq.sh jif¾ Wmiïmod jqKd fkao@

ms<s;=r- Wmiïmodj lrkafka th ,xldfõ ms<s.;a iïm‍%odhlafka' idudkH Wmiïmodj l<dg nqÿ yuqÿrejkaf.a O¾ufha Wm iïmodj lshkafka ys; yo,d ry;afjk tl' wksl Wmiïmodj ish mdrla l<;a jevla keyefka ksjka olskak neßkï" wvq ;rfï fidajdkaj;a fjkak neßkï' NslaIqj fhduq l< hq;af;a Wmiïmod YSf,ka uyKlu bjr lrkak fkdfjhs' t;ekska uyKlu mgka .kak' t;ek b|ka mgka wrf.k iir ÿl ksjk l%uhla fydhkak' wms idïm‍%odhsl Wmiïmodj lrkafka th rfÜ ms<s.;a iïm‍%odhla' fï foflau jrola kE'

m‍%Yakh- ffu;‍%S nqÿka Tn jykafia njg iuyre lshkjd' ta we;a;o@

ms<s;=r- Tõ b;ska th ´kEu flkl=g lshkak mq¿jkafka' oeka f*ianqla od,d ;shkjd ffu;‍%S nqÿka lsh,d' oeka wks;a me;a;g od,d keoao foajo;a;hd lsh,d' ta folu lshkjd' oeka biair jf.a fkdfjhs' oeka udOH újD; fj,d' ´k flkl=g woyia lshkak mq¿jka' nqÿ flfklao keoao lsh,d lshkak mq¿jka ;ukag oefkk tl wkqj ñila ldf.kaj;a wy,d lsh,d yßhkafka kE' Tn;=ud ldg yß fï uf.a wïudh lshkjd kï ta oefkkjdg lshk tlla ñila ljqre yß lshkjdg lshkafka keyefka' wjYH lrkafka wmsg ljqre fudk foa lsõj;a yß nqÿ oyu iudchg f.kshkakhs' fu;rï ld,hla ;snqfKa ffck woyia'

m‍%Yakh- t;fldg Tn wjqreÿ 15la ffck oyu o weoyqfõ@

ms<s;=r- wms fyõjd' .fõIKh l<d' nqÿ iiqfk b|f.k wvqmdvq fyõjd'

m‍%Yakh- Tn ffu;‍%S nqÿka woykjd' f.!;u nqoaO Ydikh ;ju;a mj;soaÈ ffu;‍%S fndaêi;ajhka woyk tl yßo@

ms<s;=r- oeka n,kak ,xldfõ mkai,aj, úIaKq fldaú,a" l;r.u fldaú,a .y,d ;sfhkjdo lsh,d' úIaKq fohsfhda woyk tlo nqÿ oyug jvd <. fndaê i;aj jkaokdjo@ fndaê i;aj jkaokdj jvd <.hs' fndai;ajrekag j¢kak fkfuhs lshkafka' taf.d,a,kag msx fokak' foúhkag je|,d ksjka olskak neye'

m‍%Yakh- Tn jykafia ry;a jQ nj iuyre lshkjd' wms wid we;s mßÈ oi ixfhdack j,ska ñÿkyuhs ry;a fjkafka' @

ms<s;=r- meyeÈ,sju uu tal lsõjd' ñksiaiq ys;ka ysáfha Wäka hk jf.a flfkla ry;a lsh,d' ixhqla; ksldfha iQisu iQ;‍%h lsfhõjd kï ry;ka jykafia .ek oek.kak mq¿jka' tys i|yka fjkjd hï flkl=g iir ÿflka ñfokak ´kE kï máfida;.dó wd¾h ud¾.h jv,d ´k flkl=g ksjka wjfndaO lr.kak mq¿jka'

m‍%Yakh- Tn ry;a kï fldhs ldf,o ry;a jqfKa@

ms<s;=r- oeka wjqreÿ folla muK ;siafia ;uhs ud lshkafka ud flf,ia ke;s l< ksflf,ia flfkla nj'

m‍%Yakh- Tn ry;a nj .sys iudch fldfyduo mÍlaId lrkafka@

ms<s;=r- .sys iudchg mßlaId lrkak neye' ux iQ;‍%hla lshkakï' fïl ;sfhkafka ixhqla; ksldfha fldai, ixhqla;fha rÊc iQ;‍%h' ojila nqÿ yduqÿrefjda <. fldfid,a rÊcqrefjd bkakjd' t;ekska wdðjlfhda" ks.kaGfhda jf.a wh hkjd' b;ska fldfid,a rÊcqrefjd Tjqkq;a ry;=ka lsh,d t;ekska ke.sg,d .syska je| kuialdr lr,d tkjd' weú;a lshkjd Tn jf.au Tjqkq;a ry;a lshd' túg nqÿka jykafia wykjd mialï iem ú¢k ia;‍%Ska iu. ixjdifha fhfok Tn fldfyduo ry;=kao okafka lsh,d' túg fldfid,a rcq lshkjd Tn jykafia yß' ud jeks flkl=g tjeks flkl= .ek lshkak neye lsh,d'

m‍%Yakh- iajdóka jykafia,dg neßo Tn ry;ao lshd mÍlaId lrkak@

ms<s;=r- b;ska ta iajdóka jykafia,d tkak tmdhe mÍlaId lrkak' flfkla i;H wjfndaO l<d kï ta i;H wjfndaO l< W;=ud ta wjfndaOh lKqfjka lKqj lshkak ´kE' ug fufyu jqKd' fï úÈhghs ux ksjka u. .uka lf<a lshd iuia;h foaYkd lrkak ´kE' f,dalfha ´kEu flkl=g iir ÿl ksjkak mq¿jka' wksl ry;a fjkak neß nqoaOd.ñka jevla keyefka' nqoaOd.fï mru ksIaGdj iir ÿl ksùu' th ´kEu flkl=g lrkak mq¿jka' nqÿ oyu u< oyula fkdfjhs' iÔù oyula' hï NslaIqjla fï lshk i;r i;smÜGdkh jvdf.k .sfhd;a wkd.dó fyda ry;a njg m;a úh hq;= nj i;r i;smÜGdk iQ;‍%fha ;sfnkjd'

m‍%Yakh- ;‍%smsgfla lshkafka msgq ;=klah lshd lshmq mqoa.,hka ysáh" pkao%sld jej;a msß;a l< Woúh ysgmq iudchla fïl' tjeks iudchl Tn lshk foa úfõpkh lrk tl widOdrKo@

ms<s;=r- we;a;' we;a;gu idOdrKhs' ,xldfõ ck iudch wjqreÿ tla oyia .Kkla ¥m;lfka ysáfha' wo wka;¾cd,h újD; fj,dfka' ta ksid fuh uydoaùmhla

fj,d' we;a;gu ux jf.a flfkla fufya my<ùu iqÿiq kE' my< jqfKa wms uyoaùmhla fjÉp ksid'

m‍%Yakh- Tn wjfndaOhg m;a fjoa§ YÍrfha fjkialï jQ nj óg fmr lshd ;snqKd' kuq;a wmg tfyu Tfí fjkila fmfkkafka keyefka@

ms<s;=r- óg wjqreÿ y; wglg l,ska rEmjdyskS jevigyka mÍlaId lrkak' bka wk;=rej wo mÍlaId lrkak' bka wk;=rej Tn ks.ukh lrkak' flkl=f.a YÍrh lshkafka ysf;ys ;j;a me;slvla' is; uDÿ fjoa§ YÍrh uDÿ fjkjd' is; r¿ fjoa§ YÍrh r¿ fjkjd' wkak ta moku Wv ;uhs ud lsõfõ' fï lshk l;dj tÈ fkod iudfcÈ jqj;a oelsh yels h:d¾:hla'

m‍%Yakh- Tn ry;a fj,d kï Tng mrÑ;a; úcdkk {dkh fyda mqífí ksjdidkqiai;s {dkh ;sfnkjd o@

ms<s;=r- Tn lshkak yokafka uf.a ysf;a ;shk tl lshkak lsh,dfka' ux tlal ojila l;dlrf.k bkak' bka miafia Tn uf.ka wykak ´k m‍%Yakh ux Tfnka wykjd' oeka biafi,a,d tfyu weyqfKa keoao@ wkak tÉprhs' Bg jvd ;¾l fldf<d;a ux id;a;r ldrfhla fjkjd' ug id;a;r ldrfhla" wkdjels ldrfhla fjkak ´k kE'

m‍%Yakh- wm wid we;af;a u,shfoaj uyry;ka jykafia wjika uyry;ka jykafia lshdhs' Tn ry;a kï bkamiafia oekg bkak tlu ry;ka jykafia Tno@

ms<s;=r- th ux lshkjdg ms<s.kak tmd' ux lshk tl m‍%;slafIam lrkak;a tmd' Tn fydhd n,kak' ;j ljqre yß bkakjdo n,kak' ysáfhd;a ug;a lshkak' ke;akï ms<s.kak'

m‍%Yakh- Tng jvd fcHIaG kdhl yduqÿre flfkla Tfí wvqmdvqjla fmkakqfjd;a ms<s.kak leu;so@

ms<s;=r- ux leu;shs ms<s.kak' ug jrola lsõfjd;a ux ;¾l lrkjd' f,dl= yduqÿre flfkla lsõfjd;a ug fldKafvhs /qjq,hs jjkak lsh,d ux jjkak ´kEo@ th ms<s.kak ´k keyefka' i;r ufydamfoaY lshd tlla ;sfhkjd' wyj,a úydrfha isák O¾uOr iajdóka jykafia lsõjdh lshd ms<s.kak fkdhkak' wyj,a úydrfha isák O¾uOr uyd f;reka jykafia,d lsõjdh lshd ms<s.kak fkdhkak' wyj,a úydrfha isák úkhOr iajdókajykafia lsõjd lshd ms<s.kak fkdhkak' wyj,a úydrfha isák úkhOr iajdóka jykafia,d lsõjdh lshd ms<s.kak fkdhkak' O¾uhg úkhg od ii|d n,d ms<s.kak' ud;a leu;shs O¾uhg úkhg od,d ii|d ms<s.kak' f.!;u nqÿrcdkka jykafiag fldÉpr fpdaokd l<do' ug;a tfyu l<dfka'

m‍%Yakh- Tn jykafia uydhdk iïm‍%odh wkq.ukh lrk njg iuyre fpdaokd lrkjd@

ms<s;=r- uydhdk iïm‍%odfha uia ud¿ lEula keyefka' uydhdk iïm‍%odfha uia ud¿ fmakak;a neye' wms odfkg uia ud¿ ÿkakfka' b;ska wms f(rjd§o uydhdko lshkak' ¨Kq" iqÿ¨kqj;a uydhdfka lkafka kE' uu f(rjd§ nqÿ oyu yßhg wkq.ukh lrkjd'

m‍%Yakh- wkHd.ólrKh .ek Tfí woyi@

ms<s;=r- wkHd.ólrKh fjkafka wfmka yßhg fjkafka ke;s ksihs' NslaIqka jykafia,d msvqis.d jäkak ´kE' f.ka f.g jäkak ´kE' wks;a iudch jev lrkak ´kE' ta jf.au wfkla m‍%Odk ld¾h ;uhs NslaIQka jykafia,d ksjka u. jvkak ´kE'

m‍%Yakh- Tn mskalï ,iaikg lrkak yokjd' bkak ;ek ,iaikg ;shd .kak ´kE lshkjd' ,iaikg lrkak ´kE lshkafka we,au jeäfjkjd lshk tl fkfïo@

ms<s;=r- iïmQ¾K jerÈhs' nqÿka ldf,a ñ.dr ud;= m‍%didoh lshkafka ,iai; mkai,la' ojila isgqjrfhla b;d jákd mdmsiaila f.ksÉpd' .sksyska odkak ;ekla fydhkjd¨' kuq;a ;ekla yuqjqfKa keye' fya;=j ;shk mdmsi Bg jvd jákjd' Tyq mdmsiai kej; f.kdjd' nqoaOd.fï jev ms<sfj< rdclSh jev ms<sfj<la' wkqrdOmqf¾ f,dajd uydmdh ;Ügq kjhhs' j;a;lalkaofla ;sfhkafka NslaIQka jykafia bkak ;ek msßisÿ lr .kak ´k' úydrfha l=ÿ uy;a lghq;= lrkak ´k'

m‍%Yakh- ry;ka jykafia kula kï wehs nexl= .skqï mj;ajdf.k hkafka@

ms<s;=r- ´k tlla lrkak mq¿jkafka' fu;k f,dl= wdh;khla' ,hsÜ ì,a f.jkak ´k' nexl= .skqu fkfuhs m‍%Yafka' .skqfï lShla tl;= lr,d ;sfhkjdo lshk tl' uu lshkafka i,a,s lsh,d úhoï lrk tajd ñila mqia lk tajd fkdfjhs' ish¨ fokdf.a hym; msKsi i,a,s úhoï lrkak ´k'

m‍%Yakh- ry;ka jykafia,d lshkafka mska mõ fkdlrk msßila nj lshkjd' Tn ry;akï wehs mskalï lrkafka@

ms<s;=r- mska lrkafka kE lsõfjd;a jerÈ' mska mõ fjkafka kE' lrkafka kE lshk tlhs fjkafka kE lshk tlhs folla' ug mska fjkafka kE' wks;a whg hym;la fjkjd' NslaIqj yeu wjia:djlg ;u odhlhkag mska mqrjkak ´k'

m‍%Yakh- Tn ry;ka jykafia kula kï mdúÉÑ lrk jpk l;d lrk wdldrh .eg¨jla ;sfnk nj fndfyda fofkla lshkjd@

ms<s;=r- uu msßkaoõj mrmqf¾ ryf;la' msßkaoõj,d yß wuq;=hs' wms ry;=ka lshd oel,d ;sfhkafka ì;a;sj, ;sfhk Ñ;‍%fka' ta Ñ;‍%j,g mK ;snqfKa keyefka ljodj;a' oeka ta Ñf;%lg mK weú;a' ry;a flkl=g tfyu tlla kE' ta wh mq[a[ mdm mySkiai' thd,g msx mõ msfrkafka kE' is;sú,s lsisjla kE' Ñ;a; úuqla;sh ldgj;a fyd,a,kak nE' ug ñksiaiq .ykak weú;a ;shkjd' neK,d ;sfhkjd' wmydi lr,d ;sfhkd' ta lsisjlska ud lïmd jqfKa kE' ug flaka;s hkafka kE' mq¿jkakï flaka;s .iai,d fmkajkak' ug ljqreyß .,aj,ska .eyqfjd;a ux .,aj,ska .ykak hkafka kE' ta .,a tl;= lr,d f.hla yokjd'

m‍%Yakh- ry;a jQ nj lshk Tn jykafia wehs nK lshoa§ nqÿka .ek lshñka lshkafka@ Tn wjfndaO lr.;a foa Wmfhda.S lrf.k lsj yelshs fkao@

ms<s;=r- iq;a; ksmd;fha wdu.kaO iQ;‍%fha ;sfhkjd f.!;u nqÿ yduqÿrefjda ldYHm nqÿyduqÿrefjd uq,a lrf.k nK lsõjd'

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